Productivity IS all in your mind! A chat with Jon Tromans.

This post is for your ears more than your eyes. I was interviewed by Jon Tromans for his Triple “T” Productivity Podcast

Available on Substack, Apple, Amazon, Spotify, etc!


I hope you enjoy Jon’s melodious Queen’s English as we discuss the following:

  • Productivity lessons from Jon’s granddaughter who “hasn’t had long on the earth” and operates at 100% from wake up to bedtime.
  • The most important thought we can have to put us on the right path through the Cognitive Triangle.
  • How to induce the Flow state that Jon was able to attain in his early-career four-hour radio show.
  • How to manage the “interruptions” from clients because you cannot tell them to “bugger off.”
  • How to give yourself the best possible version of Dissociative Identity Disorder.
  • How a five-minute phone call can save the planet.
  • The secret things I procrastinate doing…daily! I’m a little salty that he made me confess this.


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Dr. Melissa GratiasMelissa Gratias (pronounced “Gracious”) used to think that productivity was a result of working long hours. And, she worked a lot of hours. Then, she learned that productivity is a skill set, not a personality trait. Now, Melissa is a productivity expert who coaches and trains other businesspeople to be more focused, balanced, and effective. She is a prolific writer and speaker who travels the world helping people change how they work and improve how they live. Contact her at or 912-417-2505. Sign up to receive her productivity tips via email.

1 Comment

  1. Debbie Mooney Raven

    Melissa – loved the conversation between you two and yes his accent was my favorite. Girl I was shocked by your procrastination confession but since working from home I find myself doing the same thing. Too funny. I am so glad you are doing well and I still remember your tips you gave me years ago when you came to visit our office. I wish you the best!!


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